Mag. Like all 7mms, they can fire bullets as light as 100-grains and as heavy as 180-grains. I have shot most of my stuff with a .300 Win mag and it has never failed me. You may also want to consider some of the the short mags. The 7mm is lighter on the shoulder. In my experience with both, if you use proper shooting technique with a decent stock, it's more than manageable. I have a .270 Win, a 7mm Rem Mag, and a .300 Win Mag. vs. 7mm Rem. Does anyone know how bad the recoil from a 7mm rem mag is compared to a 300 wsm? I have yet to have a case separation in my Browning 7mm rem mag. Mag. In the table below rifle weight is given in pounds, free recoil energy is given in foot pounds, and free recoil velocity is given in feet-per-second. The logical bottom end for the .300 Winchester ranges between 130 and 150 grains, depending on bullet construction; the 7mm Rem. by 13 percent and the Win. So a larger hole with the 300 might not be effective if it hits a little off of where you want it to go. Several friends have been telling me that the recoil is pretty hefty in the new cartridges as well. If you can tote a rifle that comes in at around 10 lbs ready to rock AND it fits you well, no worries. vs. .300 Win. Just food for thought. Does anyone know how bad the recoil from a 7mm rem mag is compared to a 300 wsm? Thanks blog) by 20 percent. Just get your feed ramp notched to allow feeding the 180VLDs seated long. The WSMs are great cartridges though, and have quite have a few minor advantages over the old belted magnums. I have a collection of guns mostly for deer hunting from 6.5 to 06 to 308, 270, 7x57, 30-30, 35 and so on. I went back to the .308 until I went to Africa again in late 90s and then 2004. in 99 I took a .300 Weatherby and a .375 Weatherby. I use the Alpha mags, but Seekins are another option. Does the perfect muley cartridge really exist? The 175 grain bullet worked well on Elk and caribou for me. Nov 11, 2008 #2. I have one on my .338 Rem Ultra Mag and it is very pleasant to shoot. It's pretty close to the 280 Ackley and since you're a reloader, obtaining ammo won't be an issue. With a variety of bullets from most of the prominent mfg's in weights including, 140, 150, 160, 168, 180 and now 195. recoil? We put 3 popular cartridges to a head-to-head-to-head test I am liking what I see about the 7mm mag but a lot of people use the 300w/m . The 7mm is kind of in between, but I got a smokin good deal on it. But the 300 WSM is … of .284", 175 gr. Discussion in 'Firearms' started by clemsonguy81, Feb 6, 2009. I'm running about 2950fps in a 28" melonited barrel without a compressed load. Mag. It's a pretty lightweight rifle so the recoil is definately something to consider. I have two 7mm rem mags--a #1 and an A-bolt--and they feel, to me, just like an -06. Nosler and Hornady load both 7mm Remington Magnum and .280 Ackley ammunition; looking at their data you’ll see a difference of 90 to 100 fps between the two, with the belted 7mm Magnum giving the higher velocities (with a 162-grain Hornady ELD-X, the 7mm Mag. It just seems to kill elk a lot better than the .270. Have you ever considered the 270 WSM? All recoil values have been rounded off to … Mag. Welcome Guest! As to case life; a competent handloader can get up to 10 reloads from brass handled properly. That is to say, .300 AAC Blackout bullets travel 2.6 times the speed of a 737 airplane at cruising speed, while 7mm-08 Remington bullets travel 3.2 times that same speed. The synthetic stocked rifle looks like a Winchester. A 150 grain 7mm Rem flies at 2900-300fps, and a 150 grain .300WM flies at around 3300-3400fps. Since they both shoot quite flat the recoil they produce would, according to Bowman, matter on where the bullet hit's. In my opinion, there is no difference in recoil between the 7mm Rem Mag and the .300 Win Mag. As the 7mm Rem Mag is of smaller caliber than the 300 Win Mag, it is a very good choice for lighter, smaller animals. I liked the 300, but the 7mm WSM is a great one. I am looking to get something for going larger and longer out west type hunting. On the west coast, most hunters use the 7mm Rem Mag for rifle elk season, so ammo and reloading supplies are more common. I've killed at least 1 cow and 3 bull elk with the 300 WSM/180 2,950 combo. The new WSM's seem to be in light weight rifles most of the time also. Mule Deer Cartridge Showdown: .270 Win. I have a Rem. That being said a .300 WSM won't be a bad choice at all. Re: 300 WSM or 7mm WSM 7mms for higher BC with less recoil. The 7mm-08 is a bit closer to the 308 and doesn't really come close to the ballistics of the 7mm mag. The .300 WSM has similar (slightly better) capabilities, though as I understand it, they can't really make good use of the heavier 200 and 220 gr. Both are good cartridges. 7mm Rem Mag is a fairly popular cartridge (although declining somewhat it seems), but the WSM craze seems to have really died off. There are more match grade bullets made for the .300WM. Recoil is worse with a .300. The 300 Win looks real good with bullets such as the 190 and 210 ABLRs BUT the 7mm Rem looks darned good with the 150's and 168 ABLRs as well. Energy. Then i have a 22" barreled 7mm SAUM running 162's at 3k (basically a 7mm Rem mag but a short action version). Thus I decided on the 7mm Rem Mag and I am very happy I did. At 500 yards, the 7mm Rem Mag overtakes the 300 Win in stopping power. I had an easy time parting with the 300 WSM cause of the 7mm. 7mm rem mag for an easy to load for and find factory loads too. Both are capable of killing anything in the western hemisphere.It isn't as though you compare 7mm Rem and STW and RUM, or .300 WM, WSM, or RUM. All five of the .300 Win Mag rounds produced between 27 and 32ft.lb of energy, between 7 and 14 more ft.lb of recoil energy than the 7mm Rem Mag rounds. I also have a .300 Wthby in a Rem 700, but I don't think it provides much real advantage over the Win version. 300 wsm 180 Accubond 7mm rem mag 160 Accubond to 500 yards. As for the 7mm Rem vs 300 Win. (which you can read all about on this 7mm vs. 300 Win. Using a fat, 404 Jeffery case 2.850" long with the 30-degree shoulder pushed well forward, Remington engineers were able to beat the case capacity of the 300 Wby. Recoil of the 300 WSM should be pretty much the same as the 300 Win Mag. Mag. I have tested, owned, built and shot many 7 rem mags, 7mm-300 win mags, a few 7 stw's, a 7 RUM or two and others in the .284 family. Same weight bullet, same velocity = same recoil. 300 SAUM and its felt recoil is considerably less than that of the 300 win mag or 300 weatherby mag, and is matches closely to the trajectory of the 300 win mag. Various calibers. Ballistically (at least to 300 yards or so) the 30-06 in a comparable bullet weight is very similar. I'm tuning up a 7mm wsm mostly for the cool factor and my ego. which has more recoil and which would you recamend for a 15 year old thats 5 ft 8 in and 165 lbs. There was a trend for more recoil energy with the .300 Win Mag rounds, and we also have to take into account the difference in rifle weights between these two cartridges. Sorry , wrong thread. Truly appreciate you watching the videos!Milk jugs with these two power houses!! 7mm Rem Mag vs 300 Win Mag – Most Popular Rounds As we come to the end of our review, we will like to share some of the best rounds that are perfect for certain applications: We chose the HSM Berger 168gr magnum for the Remington cartridge because it is a heavyweight, ideal for hunting purposes, and makes the handling of recoil easy. A rule of thumb that a lot of shooters go by is that 20ft.lb of recoil energy can influence the shot and even be uncomfortable for some shooters. just my 2 … This rifle is super light weight, bare rifle just under 5.5 lbs, all up scoped ready to shoot its 7lbs, very light for a 1000 yd capable rifle. Think, pronghorn, mule, and fallow deer. If you are determined to use the 7mm bullets look at the 280 rem, 280 improved, and 284 win. When buying the Tikka I was a little unsure whether to decide on 7mm Rem Mag or some .30 cal. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > clemsonguy81 remington 700 cdl 30-06! Plus, the .270 WSM could poach from an already extensive lineup of .277 bullets designed for the .270 Win. In the WSM .270 fans found a short, powerful, efficient round that could be housed in compact, lightweight short-action rifles and which edged closer to 7mm Rem. I don't agree that a 7mm WSM suffers in a short action mag. RE: 300 Weatherby vs 7 mm REM MAG Of course if you really want to stay with the .308" bullets the 300ultramag offers slightly more punch than the 300wby.With .338" bullets the 338ultramag offers noticeably more punch than the 338winmag and offers flatter trajectory as well for longer ranges. ballistics. The 7mm shoots .284-inch diameter bullets through bores .28-inch across, but only two use this Imperial measuring system in their titles: .280 Remington and .284 Winchester, both excellent but under-rated “standard” velocity cartridges. These calibers, along with similar calibers not evaluated (.264 Win Mag, .270 Wby Mag, 7mm WSM and 7mm Wby Mag) are optimally designed to take medium game at ranges beyond 300 yards. I thought this was for your wife for some reason. Some may wonder why the popular .270 Win, 7mm Rem Mag and .270 WSM did not have better showings. Reality is my 7-08 would do the job all day. Truly appreciate you watching the videos!Cinder blocks with these two power houses!! These will give substantially better performance than the 308 and won't burn barrels nearly as fast as the 7mm mag. Buzz Senior Member. Wait till you get that 7mm WSM sorted out Gene. Also consider 300 Win Mag will have substantially more recoil and cost slightly more to reload. In objective terms (someone has a recoil calcultor out there somewhere), 7mm Rem Mag is very similar to the .30-06. looking for some direction. Mag. A 180 grain bullet from a 8 lb rifle at 2900 FPS will feel the same wether it is a 300 WSM or a 300 win mag. runs at 2940 fps and the .280 AI runs at 2850 fps). Nov 11, 2008 #2 . … Rifles chambered for the .300 WSM are lighter than rifles chambered for the .300 Win Mag and this reduction in weight often means a bit meaner kick. Mag. Maybe more, but can't remember. In 2004 I took my 99 .270 WSM and a light .375 H&H. used the 7mm alot from the 80s and for me it was a pretty hard kicker not much less than a .300 Win Mag. can use bullets of 120 grains, but things usually top out at 175 or 185 grains. Which is sort of an explanation of why I have the .300. The 7mm WSM or 7mm Rem Mag are a bit better on account of the higher B.C. bullets because of OAL in the magazines. Comparing say the 7mm WSM to a 300 WSM as to potential effectiveness on game an important factor is shot placement. I have killed elk with the .270 and the .300. 300 win mag vs 7mm rem mag? 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